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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 11, 2011 22:48:02 GMT -5
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Please post that shit somewhere.
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 11, 2011 22:51:03 GMT -5
What? The fact that I'm awesome at planning battles or that Bethany Base is allusion piled on top of allusion (quite literally in fact)?
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 11, 2011 23:11:51 GMT -5
the fuck shit stack of allusions.
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 11, 2011 23:16:38 GMT -5
which makes me wonder if it will show up again. It seems a shame to waste such an interesting base (and all those allusions)
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 11, 2011 23:40:30 GMT -5
indeed
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 11, 2011 23:45:26 GMT -5
has Bethany Base made a Nobody Dies appearance? It seems like something that Gregg would use in a heartbeat. I mean, fuck, he made NEW VEGAS a locale. and technically NERV-Alaska.
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 12, 2011 0:07:44 GMT -5
hm, I haven't read Dante's Inferno in a while, but I seem the recall that Styx surrounded the Fifth Circle of Hell...and a quick check of Wikipedia confirms this. Cocytus is the name of the Ninth Circle, Phlegethon lies in the Seventh, and Acheron surrounds the First.
this forms my theory for the layout of Bethany Base: Acheron is the top level, and the other areas are arranged in a descending order as in Inferno. Going by the odd number patter of the Rivers, I place Lethe at the Third Circle, which sets it between Acheron, and Styx. Therefore, my theoretical layout of NERV-Bethany is (in descending order)
Acheron -> Lethe -> Styx -> Phlegethon -> Cocytus
Sorrow -> Forgetfulness -> Hate -> Fire -> Lamentation
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 12, 2011 12:33:57 GMT -5
Final will feature a final battle with ADAM
ON ICE!
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 12, 2011 13:57:58 GMT -5
Shinji takes one last psychotic journey through the levels of Bethany before breaking free and fighting Gazadriel. I have this shit planned out
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 12, 2011 16:09:11 GMT -5
Kewl
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 12, 2011 16:24:35 GMT -5
Don't worry, I'm still working on the current chapters/RAMIEL FIGHT,
But here's something else about the final fight:
the dead people that show up to Shinji are Kaji, Gendo, Toji, Mal, and Mari. Each one appears on a different level of Bethany. Kaji on Acheron(Sorrow), Mal on Lethe(Memories), Gendo on Styx (Hate), Mari on Phelgethon(Pain), and Toji on Cocytus(Regret)
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 12, 2011 22:12:27 GMT -5
I like it!
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 15, 2011 0:10:21 GMT -5
“Bethany, the site of miracles! You kneel at Acheron, the place of Sorrow and fear!”
The multitude spread their arms, forming a tight circle around Shinji.
“We are Ryoji Kaji! We are your sorrow and we are your fear! We have come forth to show you yourself.” Shinji clutched his head and bent over forward, nearly touching his forehead to the ground. “You hesitate in your decisions, Shinji, why is it that you always hesitate?”
“Because I – “ He stopped short, knowing the unpleasant answer.
“Because you are afraid of making the wrong choice, is that it?” He didn’t have to answer. “Yes it is. You fear to make the wrong decision so much that you are unable to act.”
“That’s not true!”
“It is true.”
“No! I wasn’t afraid for a long time. After Iruel – “
“You started sleeping with Asuka.”
For some reason, that statement felt like a punch to the gut for Shinji.
The multitude of Kaji continued. “You had someone who gave you worth; someone whom you know would not hate you for making a wrong decision. Do you see? Things were good for you and so you opened up. Do you remember?”
Reluctantly, he answered. “I remember.”
“But what happened as soon as it turned sour? You did what you always do: you retreated into yourself. You did it when Toji died. You did when I died. When Mana died! When Mari died! You let your sorrow hide your fear!”
“No! No, that’s not true.”
“It is true! In fact, the entire reason we are here now is because you were afraid to admit you screwed up. You knew as soon as you woke up that things were wrong, but you lived for four years in a false reality because you didn’t want anyone to know that you made a mistake!”
“What if they hated me?” He screamed.
“Would you let the entire world die to cover up a mistake?”
“I…I…”
“And even now you are afraid. You almost reversed Instrumentality, but you stopped. Why did you stop? The fate of every life is hanging by a thread and you hesitate!”
“What if…?”
“What if what?”
“What if they…?”
“What if they what?”
“What if they would rather have stayed here?”
“It is not their decision. It is your decision.”
“No. No! I never wanted this!”
“You always wanted this! You always wanted to be able to make others do exactly as you wanted!”
“No.” Shinji fell over onto his side and curled up tight, attempting to shut out the world around him.
“Even now…” the multitude of Kaji stopped. It was useless. Simply berating the boy would do no good. An idea. “What is it you fear most, Shinji Ikari? What causes the greatest sadness inside you?”
“No,” he whispered, not daring to think of it.
“No matter. I will simply show it to you.” The multitude collapsed into a single Kaji and that Kaji picked Shinji up with one hand on his head. “What is your greatest fear?”
The world around them convulsed and a large image of Gendo Ikari appeared before them.
“Cute, but incorrect.” He pressed harder. A picture of Shinji in the Entry Plug of Eva 01. “Piloting the Eva? Does it really give you that much sorrow? No. There is more; it lies deeper. Come on now, Shinji! Show me what echoes in the deepest part of your soul!”
Asuka Langley Soryu lay dead on the floor, bleeding form unspecified wounds, her face a mixture of surprise and terror. Shinji trembled in his grip, the tears falling freely. “You fear that she might die…but that is still not your deepest fear. Show me.” Weakened from the strain and sight of her, Shinji allowed the multitude to probe into the darkest part of himself.
Kaji vanished, and Shinji stood alone.
“This? You are afraid of being alone? No…” A crowd materialized around the teen. He stood at the centre of a hollow, just wide enough that he could not touch the nearest person. “I see now. You are afraid of not just being alone, but also being close to someone. You are afraid that the people will hurt and so you keep them at arm’s length, despairing that you can neither be with them nor without them.”
Kaji appeared beside him. “All you wanted was someone to appreciate you. But you thought no one wanted you, so you shunned them as you thought they shunned you.”
Shinji fell back to his knees. “It’s true. It’s all true. But I…how can I change who I am?”
“I will show you.” Kaji snapped his fingers and Asuka appeared beside him, eighteen. “Touch her.”
The sight of her seemed to clam him enough to stand. Carefully, he extended his hand until he could just barely touch her arm – and recoiled as if from an electrical shock.
“Yes. Being close to someone means potentially getting hurt. Stay away, and you will never know that pain, but together, you have someone with whom to share that pain.”
“Shinji,” Asuka said. “If you don’t embrace me right now, I will vanish forever.”
“But it…it hurts…”
“Right now! Right now or I will leave forever!”
“But – “
“Do you love me or not?”
“Of course I do!”
“Then take me!”
“Shinji!” Kaji screamed. “Do you want her to die?”
“No!”
“Then save her!”
Shinji thrust himself forward and closed his arms around Asuka, ignoring the pain he received at first. The longer he held on, the more it dissipated until it was no more. He felt her arms around him, too.
“Thank you.”
But he opened his eyes again Asuka was gone, replaced by Kaji. “So you’ve proven you can overcome your fear and your sadness. You pass this test.” The multitude encircled him once more. “But there is more of yourself to face ahead, and we fear it will be too difficult for you. “
The ground beneath him crack and fell away.
“Do not prove us right, Shinji. You hold all of the pieces in your hands.”
Shinji fell and dropped deeper into Bethany, into Lethe.
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Post by Damien on Feb 15, 2011 0:15:45 GMT -5
BOW-CHIKA-WA-WOW!
...sorry...it had to be done...
EDIT: nevermind. If anyone just read the last line like I did at first, they'd think the same thing...fell into Bethany...lol anyways, this story is AWESOME!
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 15, 2011 0:58:10 GMT -5
Heh, thanks. I'm getting a little sidetracked at the moment (read: skipping right to the end) but it should pass soon. That was the last scene bouncing around in my head.
Also: its tough to return to the seriousness of NPE after spending a night writing Tales of Evangelion, which amounts to a stream-of-consciousness cluster fuck.
EDIT: It wouldn't be a Neon Gensis Evangelion fic unless there was a heavy amount of (intentional or not) sexual metaphors.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 15, 2011 17:45:43 GMT -5
Ok. This was great. Seriously, it's for updates like this that I keep on loving this story.
Great job Tyler.
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 15, 2011 18:09:01 GMT -5
That really was the last extraneous scene bouncing in my head. Back to plot, I guess
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 15, 2011 18:12:56 GMT -5
YAY
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Post by Mizagium on Feb 15, 2011 18:21:59 GMT -5
I'm just using the running away scene from the series and giving Gendo a scene to prove he's an actualy person in this
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Feb 15, 2011 18:25:13 GMT -5
I like gendo being imaperson
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