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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 14:39:32 GMT -5
Stalin could be a werebear.
Or just another revolutionary.
Before coming to power, he was sorta like Lenin's dragon.
Trotsky was more like Lenin's lancer.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 14:41:29 GMT -5
Wait, so...what?
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 14:43:25 GMT -5
Stalin basically did all of Lenin's dirty work before becoming the supreme editor of Pravda, whilst Trotsky was out on the battlefield commanding the Red Army against the Whites.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 14:48:04 GMT -5
That could work.
Lenin could have tricked them into believing he was going to do the whole revolution thing, but actually plans on handing it over to Rome.
*sigh* I'm to have to do a lot of Russian history research for this.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 14:51:31 GMT -5
Lenin wasn't exactly the kind of guy who would betray the very cause he set out to create. That' really more of Stalin's bag.
Whatever, drama.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 14:53:59 GMT -5
Well, vampire Lenin's goal was actually to hand Russia over to Rome, anyway. He just used the growing distrust/anger/whathaveyou towards the Czars as the fuel to set it into motion.
Or I could make it Stalin.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 14:59:24 GMT -5
After Lenin's death, there was this big delima as to who would be Lenin's successor. Stalin changed sides 3 times to give himself absolute power.
Yeah...
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:03:18 GMT -5
Just...give me a definite answer.
Who leads the vampire revolutionary forces that plan on handing Russia over to Rome, and who leads the people's army that plans on taking the country from the reinstated Czars?
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:13:54 GMT -5
how about this. Lenin and the bunch succeed in getting the Czars off their throne. However, the bad guys show up and kick them out and Lenin is killed in the process (Rasputin fight?). Trotsky leads the peasants into battle alongside Stalin, but later finds out that Stalin betrayed them all.
Stalin wanted the Czars re-instated so that he could throw them out again, offer himself to Rome and then get himself crowned Provincial Governor (or whatever). But that's only the beginning. Overtime, he would build up an army of half-vampire, half-human hybrids and use them to conquer both Rome and Byzantium.
How about that?
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:17:59 GMT -5
that sounds about right.
Lenin gets destroyed by Rasputin at the end of Part 1.
But in Part 2 and/or 3, Trotsky and Stalin are racing against the Roman and Byzantine forces to gain Petrograd(?).
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:24:16 GMT -5
Sounds about right. Sure.
And yes, Saint Petersburg was renamed Petrograd in 1914. Way to go!
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:25:11 GMT -5
Although. They changed the name due to it sounding German...
Whatever.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:27:07 GMT -5
somewhere along the way, Trotsky find out about Stalin's plan (or at least the first part) and is killed...no I can't have that...
hm
he breaks away, lead a counter...counter-revolutionary force and...uh...
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:29:15 GMT -5
Has a knife fight with Stalin.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:30:30 GMT -5
who wins? obviously not the citizens, since their being invaded by Rome, Byzantium, lead in a revolution by Stalin, and...yeah.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:37:47 GMT -5
I don't care who wins. I just want an ice-pick lodged in Stalin's head.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:41:02 GMT -5
I can do that.
This whole thing might a lead-in to this universe's WWI
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:44:09 GMT -5
Do it.
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Post by Mizagium on Aug 29, 2010 15:48:17 GMT -5
except...the Great War occurred before and during the Russian Civil War...
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Aug 29, 2010 15:53:04 GMT -5
Maybe we could use the emerging Japanese Empire as some sort of aggressor.
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