OBAMA

[TEAM_DERRICK]

Jul 16, 2009 23:57:42 GMT -5 thecheat said:

Everything is relative because everything has a different experience and therefore something different to compare to. Did you know that Japanese babies stop hearing the "r" sound after six months because Japanese doesn't have that sound in the language and the children therefore never hear it. That's why there's a stereotypical Japanese accent. People physically succumb to relativity.

[thecheat]

Jul 16, 2009 23:58:31 GMT -5 Mizagium said:

Jul 16, 2009 23:57:42 GMT -5 thecheat said:

Everything is relative because everything has a different experience and therefore something different to compare to. Did you know that Japanese babies stop hearing the "r" sound after six months because Japanese doesn't have that sound in the language and the children therefore never hear it. That's why there's a stereotypical Japanese accent. People physically succumb to relativity.

Your point? I have yet to see it.

I was responding to Derrick by further explaining my bit about relativity.

[Mizagium]

Jul 16, 2009 23:59:24 GMT -5 thecheat said:

Jul 16, 2009 23:56:26 GMT -5 @tuberjustin said:

there is always genetic fuckups that will be an acception

A recessive gene for intelligence can still manifest itself in an otherwise stupid family tree. Still, facts are facts and intelligence is genetic. There have been twin studies and whatnot proving that intelligence and personality are largely due to genetics.

Where is your point? All your doing is affirming what we've been saying: you are born smart/stupid. there are genes for it. It can generally be predicted, except for the occasional black sheep genius or retarded.

[Mizagium]

Jul 17, 2009 0:00:28 GMT -5 thecheat said:

Jul 16, 2009 23:58:31 GMT -5 Mizagium said:

Your point? I have yet to see it.

I was responding to DERRICK by further explaining my bit about relativity.

then disregard my last post.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

hopefully, we can get the smart kids screened out of the rest of society and put them in special schools, where they can become more efficient members of society.

[Mizagium]

Jul 17, 2009 0:02:59 GMT -5 TEAM_DERRICK said:

hopefully, we can get the smart kids screened out of the rest of society and put them in special schools, where they can become more efficient members of society.

This is starting to sound counter-productive. Society needs to mingle. You can't keep certain groups separate from each other. It inhibits the exchange of ideas, a concept that is needed to keep a working government by the people. Especially one such as we have worked out.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

Jul 17, 2009 0:04:50 GMT -5 Mizagium said:

Jul 17, 2009 0:02:59 GMT -5 TEAM_DERRICK said:

hopefully, we can get the smart kids screened out of the rest of society and put them in special schools, where they can become more efficient members of society.

This is starting to sound counter-productive. Society needs to mingle. You can't keep certain groups separate from each other. It inhibits the exchange of ideas, a concept that is needed to keep a working government by the people. Especially one such as we have worked out.

good point.

[thecheat]

No elitism. Nobody's hopeless.

Intelligence as we know it is essentially memorization. How much knowledge you have doesn't necessarily affect other faculties, such as ingenuity and logic.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

Well, time for a hot button issue.
How should we deal with Religion?
I say that we encourage people to start their own churches. Thus giving them a sense of family and brotherhood.
I'm not sure whether we should actually endorse it though...

[Mizagium]

Jul 17, 2009 0:06:57 GMT -5 thecheat said:

No elitism. Nobody's hopeless.

Intelligence as we know it is essentially memorization. How much knowledge you have doesn't necessarily affect other faculties, such as ingenuity and logic.

This right here.

Everybody has to be equal Elitism creates a social structure. Which leads to class division, which leads to unrest, which could lead to open revolution.

Russia.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

so state church or no?
I'm voting no

[thecheat]

I wasn't talking total equality. I don't like elitism, but some of it is necessary AKA class division. Derricks suggestion was out of the question, though.

I'm not gonna touch religion. Separation of Church and State is a good policy.

[tuberjustin]

Jul 17, 2009 0:13:12 GMT -5 TEAM_DERRICK said:

so state church or no?
I'm voting no

no, BUT there needs to be some way to keep the smaller churches from going nuts WITHOUT directly controlling them or taking their freedom.

[thecheat]

Jul 17, 2009 0:15:33 GMT -5 @tuberjustin said:

Jul 17, 2009 0:13:12 GMT -5 TEAM_DERRICK said:

so state church or no?
I'm voting no

no, BUT there needs to be some way to keep the smaller churches from going nuts WITHOUT directly controlling them or taking their freedom.

Free thought.

[Mizagium]

allow total religious feedom? but keep it out of politics.

Elitism WILL develop naturally, I think, like political parties, but it has to be kept down, and not rewarded.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

make propaganda, showing the evils of elitism.
like

Narrator: these are pigs. They think that they are better than everyone else. These are horses, they do all the work. The pigs benefit from their hard work. Thats not right kids. HAIL GREAT LEADER!

[thecheat]

Elitism doesn't get out of hand if you teach people to think for themselves.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

we need to give this political philosophy its own section of the website.

[thecheat]

NO PROPAGANDA

Elitism is perpetuated through the suppression of subordinates because the elite control education. Reform education and elitism is brought under control.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

ok
that works too.
seriously though, i think that we should give this new system of government its own section of th website.
Call it: THE NEXT REVOLUTION