Sci Fi ideas

[Myrdraxxis]

same deal as the Fantasy section. Discuss or suggest ideas for scifi stories.

We need more scifi shit.

[Mizagium]

We could do ours:

Sol system is colonized on Moon, Mars (Kinda) Veuns (floating cities) Mercury (basically factories) the Asteroids (Mining) and...no wait, that's it.

Earth-Venus conflict.

Adam I forgot most of it. Help?

[Myrdraxxis]

That's pretty much it, i think. Venus and the Earth Federation begin fighting. An alien intelligence is secretly behind the conflict.

GLORY TO THE THRONE OF MARS!

[Mizagium]

GLORY TO THE THRONE OF MARS!

[Xelwes]

Earth. Year 2037. War has broken out. WW3 has revolutionized the Western world. Construction Mechs, copyrighted by a man going by the name Aaron Styne, have been adapted into weapons. The United States was invaded. The East coast was hit first. And by the time the Government and peoples had recovered from their shock, the enemy had a foothold. The battlefield is the "World's police force" on their home ground. France, Britain, and Germany rushed to the aid of their ally. China, Korea, Iraq, and several smaller countries fall behind Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda in the years after the Iraqi war, it fostered a small nation in the Middle East and slowly rose to power and influence among their neighboring States.

Among the cities hit hardest are Atlanta, Boston, and Miami. Citizens rushed to join the army. Blood and oil are mixing on the front lines.

So, thats just a short little blob I just came up with.

[Calefrun]

Copying conversation here, as a way of throwing more ideas around about what Wes has here

Basically discussing how the mechas would be controlled.


(continuing from where Wes' post leaves off)Mechas are the main fighting force. Infantry, tank, airplanes and the such are still used. Mechas are piloted through a combination of nanobots and "levers" which control left and right hand weapons, while movement of the body controls the body of the mecha. A 360 degree screen shows surroundings.
9:41 PM - wDs.Calfrun: not bad
9:41 PM - wDs.Calfrun: though check the last sentence of the first paragraph
9:42 PM - wD.Xelwes: States refers to countries
9:42 PM - wDs.Calfrun: secondand i would think that the levers would control weapons, pedals would control movement
9:42 PM - wDs.Calfrun: ah
9:42 PM - wDs.Calfrun: dammit
9:42 PM - wDs.Calfrun: ignore that
9:43 PM - wDs.Calfrun: what i meant was
9:43 PM - wDs.Calfrun: second paragraph
9:43 PM - wD.Xelwes: oh ok
9:43 PM - wDs.Calfrun: anyway, time to finish that half typed sentence there
9:43 PM - wD.Xelwes: Thats meant to be like that
9:44 PM - wDs.Calfrun: and i would think that the levers would control weapons, pedals would control movement, the nanobots would control the rest of the movement, and the screen would be 180, since you cant see behind you anyway
9:44 PM - wDs.Calfrun: no wait
9:44 PM - wDs.Calfrun: it was first paragraph
9:44 PM - wDs.Calfrun: "Al Qaeda in the years after the Iraqi war Al Qaeda had fostered"
9:44 PM - wDs.Calfrun: notice the two subjects
9:44 PM - wD.Xelwes: Thats probably a good idea. to pedals on the bottom of a suit which would sense the steps
9:45 PM - wDs.Calfrun: in the gundam series its three, i think one controls thrusters too
9:45 PM - wD.Xelwes: Ah I see it
9:45 PM - wD.Xelwes: may have seconday triggers on the levers
9:45 PM - wD.Xelwes: editing lol
9:46 PM - wDs.Calfrun: maybe, though imo a third pedal in the middle would be easier, since its function would be similar to jumping, and you jump with your feet
9:47 PM - wD.Xelwes: Since the pilot is standing it might be awkward with a third pedal
9:47 PM - wDs.Calfrun: standing?
9:47 PM - wDs.Calfrun: why?
9:48 PM - wDs.Calfrun: in that case all the controls would be ackward
9:48 PM - wDs.Calfrun: awckward*
9:48 PM - wDs.Calfrun: errr
9:48 PM - wDs.Calfrun: however its spelled
9:48 PM - wD.Xelwes: Awkward*
9:48 PM - wDs.Calfrun: thanks
9:50 PM - wD.Xelwes: The pedals are on the suit, when pressure is released the mecha steps with that foot. the hands hold the levers when holding the gun or other weapon to fire. and pulls a trigger to fire. the secondary triggers would be to use thrusters. or maybe find a different system for it
9:50 PM - wDs.Calfrun: the suit?
9:50 PM - wD.Xelwes: Just a uniform.
9:51 PM - wD.Xelwes: sepcial boots. And when forced from the mecha serves as protection
9:51 PM - wDs.Calfrun: i was thinking more like animehistory.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/snapshot20080107204843.jpg
9:51 PM - wDs.Calfrun: www.gamesetwatch.com/gundam_dc1.jpg
9:51 PM - wDs.Calfrun: www.navone.org/Media/Images/Designs/Gundam1.jpg
9:52 PM - wDs.Calfrun: www.insertcredit.com/archives/kizuna_cockpit.jpg
9:52 PM - wD.Xelwes: I kind of like the seat idea. but the screen would be smooth so nothing is blocked
9:53 PM - wD.Xelwes: But I thought the standing would provide a more fluid motion for the mechas
9:54 PM - wDs.Calfrun: hmmm
9:55 PM - wDs.Calfrun: i kinda like the angular screens for some reason, though i see what you mean
9:56 PM - wD.Xelwes: I was thinking when the Government used the Mechas for war they revamped them
9:56 PM - wDs.Calfrun: i dont see how standing would help though... then again, if we're talking about different countries here, wouldnt it make sense that they had different types of mechas?
9:56 PM - wD.Xelwes: Yea, the richer the country the better they are
9:57 PM - wDs.Calfrun: might have some with traditional gundam style, some with standing up, some with g gundam esque motion controls
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10:00 PM - wD.Xelwes: angular screens and everything
10:00 PM - wDs.Calfrun: huh?
10:00 PM - wD.Xelwes: da hell? my comp disconnected
10:00 PM - wDs.Calfrun: btw, your steam broke
10:00 PM - wD.Xelwes: I know
10:00 PM - wDs.Calfrun: last i saw was me saying "9:57 PM - wDs.Calfrun: might have some with traditional gundam style, some with standing up, some with g gundam esque motion controls"
10:01 PM - wDs.Calfrun: specifics would depend on affiliation
10:01 PM - wDs.Calfrun: sorta like in all the stories
10:01 PM - wD.Xelwes: Yea. The poorer usually have outfitted construction models. But some just use a similar model

[Myrdraxxis]

I love Wes' idea.

But I have some ideas for the Mechs. Firstly, don't make them like Gundam tall. Make em maybe eight or nine meters tall.

[Calefrun]

Maybe bigger than that

[TEAM_DERRICK]

Mar 13, 2010 21:41:00 GMT -5 Xelwes said:

Earth. Year 2037. War has broken out. WW3 has revolutionized the Western world. Construction Mechs, copyrighted by a man going by the name Aaron Styne, have been adapted into weapons. The United States was invaded. The East coast was hit first. And by the time the Government and peoples had recovered from their shock, the enemy had a foothold. The battlefield is the "World's police force" on their home ground. France, Britain, and Germany rushed to the aid of their ally. China, Korea, Iraq, and several smaller countries fall behind Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda in the years after the Iraqi war, it fostered a small nation in the Middle East and slowly rose to power and influence among their neighboring States.

Among the cities hit hardest are Atlanta, Boston, and Miami. Citizens rushed to join the army. Blood and oil are mixing on the front lines.

So, thats just a short little blob I just came up with.

Here's my two cents:
Al Qaeda isn't that powerful Wes.
And its nearly impossible to invade america, ESPECIALLY the east coast. So many people in america own guns that... Actually I think that Isoroku Yamamoto, Fleet Admiral and Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) during World War II said it best,
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

I like the general idea, but we need to think realistically. Also, if WWIII were to just start out of the blue, nukes would be flying all over the place. This war needs to have evolved from a smaller brushfire conflict and escalated from there.

[Mizagium]

Mar 13, 2010 23:07:51 GMT -5 Myrdraxxis said:

I love Wes' idea.

But I have some ideas for the Mechs. Firstly, don't make them like Gundam tall. Make em maybe eight or nine meters tall.

Can't we do further in the future? And that's not Mecha, that's mech-suits.

Also, yeah: WWIII would begin and end in a nuclear firestorm. Not invasions, those are so 20th century. Why risk lives when you fire a nuke from halfway round the world?

[Myrdraxxis]

Mar 14, 2010 12:07:43 GMT -5 Mizagium said:

Mar 13, 2010 23:07:51 GMT -5 Myrdraxxis said:

I love Wes' idea.

But I have some ideas for the Mechs. Firstly, don't make them like Gundam tall. Make em maybe eight or nine meters tall.

Can't we do further in the future? And that's not Mecha, that's mech-suits.

Also, yeah: WWIII would begin and end in a nuclear firestorm. Not invasions, those are so 20th century. Why risk lives when you fire a nuke from halfway round the world?

for the same reason the Cold War never turned into an actual war No one wants to blow up the planet.

[Mizagium]

But I'm saying that a "World War III" won't happen for those same reasons. Especially not with the UN in place.

[Calefrun]

So then you're suggesting a small-scale war instead?

[Xelwes]

I never actually explained how world war 3 actually starts. I state that War has broken out. While the U.S.'s forces are occupied with other battles, they are invaded. Small militias are formed to fight off, but being bombarded by mechas/mechs pushes them back. It IS slowly escalating in WW3 but its actually declared WW3 when the U.S. is invaded. Al Qaeda wasn't actually my first choice but I couldn't honestly think of anyone with enough hate towards us. We can replace that. I had them invade, because as Adam said, No one really wants to blow up the planet.

[Monika]

Mar 14, 2010 14:14:12 GMT -5 Xelwes said:

I never actually explained how world war 3 actually starts. I state that War has broken out. While the U.S.'s forces are occupied with other battles, they are invaded. Small militias are formed to fight off, but being bombarded by mechas/mechs pushes them back. It IS slowly escalating in WW3 but its actually declared WW3 when the U.S. is invaded. Al Qaeda wasn't actually my first choice but I couldn't honestly think of anyone with enough hate towards us. We can replace that. I had them invade, because as Adam said, No one really wants to blow up the planet.

WHAT THE F**K. F**KIN UN NOT DOIN THEIR DAMN JOBS. WHAT THE F**K ARE WE PAYING THEM FOR?

[Calefrun]

lol un doing their jobs

[Xelwes]

We're paying them to look pretty.

[TEAM_DERRICK]

ONCE AGAIN! INVADING AMERICA IS A DEATH TRAP. THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE THIS WORKING IS IF THEY INVADE THROUGH ALASKA OR HAWAII. ACTUALLY, HAWAII IS PRETTY WELL DEFENDED SO JUST ALASKA. THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT COULD EVER DO THAT WOULD BE RUSSIA AND THEY ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO INVADE ANYONE!

LEARN HOW TO STRATEGIZE/INTERNATIONAL POLITICS/COMMON FUCKING SENSE!

[Xelwes]

Its not impossible. Its just highly unlikely. No one has the guts nor the resources. BUT WHO'S TO SAY IN THE FUTURE FUCKING YEARS. People are so god damn ignorant about our own country. If our commerce were to be jeopardized we would go nearly all out to save our own asses. This is a money oriented country. You need money to do anything. A feint would open us up as wide as a prostitutes legs. A threat of anthrax or other chemical agent would then keep us from a frontal assault seeing as the government would once again have to do clean up costing more money then they would be willing to spend. WE ARE NOT INVINCIBLE. Missiles, bombs, and FUCKING MECHS can be sent. National Guard can be decimated. If they aren't trained in real combat, how are they going to deal with suicidal maniacs and people who have a straight out hate for us? Hawaii was heavily defended at the attack of Pearl Harbor, and they were attacked. They didn't have time to respond. Who's to say that couldn't happen to the East Coast. With enough resources, provided via alliances, and enough strategy we can be attacked. Like I said, we are not invincible.

People owning guns wouldn't do shit either. How many people, after being pampered as much as we are, really willing to shoot that gun when the worst thing that happens to us on a daily basis is maybe getting a paper cut? Also, in the story idea, they have mechs. Whats a little handgun going to do against a mech? Annoy it until the pilot decides to squash him/her? I don't think this got posted regarding an error in thread posting/ needing to copy and paste to this thread, but the mechs of everyday U.S. are only construction models. We don't have defense against them until our own forces react. I've thought this through.

Also, during the Revolutionary war, the Founding Fathers were thought of as terrorists. They had the equivalent of Al Qaeda's supplies. Look how the Founding Fathers did. They just had to get France to help. Look at who the invading forces got to help. Its possible that they have nuclear arms.

[Mizagium]

lets do space k?