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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 0:03:35 GMT -5
alrighty!
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 0:04:19 GMT -5
I'd imagine that the Federation would object to bionic implants not out of any moral obligations, but economic ones. IE "We can't afford for you have a bionic arm. It's too damn expensive and we can't afford it. We also can't afford for you to live beyond your 'due date.' So yeah, get back to work." For whatever reasons, there is a deep cultural divide between the Old and Separatist Worlds that does no reach across the Exodus Gulf.
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 0:07:40 GMT -5
A note on the Martian Empire: I don't seriously think a space monarchy would work all that well, since every monarch would have to be like, the greatest person ever, or the people on the distant world would revolt every two seconds, and the government would spend all its time squelching those revolts, which would cause more unrest, and it would eventually either collapse in on itself, or degrade into an Autocracy.
So for the sake or argument, Martians are content with their monarchs.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 0:09:43 GMT -5
How about this.
The Martians practice a sort of Roman Imperatorism. In other words, they indoctrinate their potential successors and choose the best among them.
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 11:34:46 GMT -5
How about this. The Martians practice a sort of Roman Imperatorism. In other words, they indoctrinate their potential successors and choose the best among them. Can you teach me your mind-reading powers?
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 12:49:32 GMT -5
One word Spice
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 12:52:05 GMT -5
I should have guessed.
The Republic has also become decidedly more religious following the Great War (because, you know, it felt the end of the goddamn world(s)), which gives them a legit reason for being conservative. Keep in mind that this is not a bad thing, its just how they are. Not like super-religious, but its close to what some people fear America might become if the Republicans are allowed to do everything they want.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 13:05:24 GMT -5
^I like that.
Also, I had this idea about Mars while on the can.
You know what the biggest problem with monarchies is? The complete separation of the masses and the rulers.
At least in states like the USSR the leaders were once normal people, but in monarchies the divide is massive. Separated by hundreds or thousands of years even!
So here's the thing. You're the king or queen of Mars, and while your aristocracy usually intermarries somewhat, you don't. You marry a commoner.
But the thing is, your spouse wouldn't even know that they were marrying into royalty until after the wedding.
Your princes and princesses are trained from birth to run the government, but they need some free time. Their identities are kept hidden from everyone save the immediate royal family. This way, they're able to mingle with the population. Eventually, they settle down with someone and then just suddenly tell them after they've exchanged vows, "Oh, by the way, I'm the future King of Mars!"
I think this could great a culture of mutual respect for the royal line and it also keeps inbreeding away from the truly important royal families. The Dukes and aristocracy may still intermarry, but they are only there to look pretty anyway.
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 13:11:00 GMT -5
I love that. I really do. I was actually thinking about the Race from the Worldwar books last night, and how there's a group of potential emperors that the citizens vote from, but this is a much more expansive idea.
Transition of Mars from Kingdom to Empire basically spelled the end of Aristocratic involvement with the government. They're still around being landholders and acting important, but any political power that they once had disappeared during the Isolation.
Also, did you read my thing about the Alliance Plebiscites?
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 13:24:22 GMT -5
Which ones were those?
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 13:28:34 GMT -5
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 13:40:37 GMT -5
Okay, so what about em?
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 13:46:31 GMT -5
Well, just that the Alliance is more like the Planetary Union in terms of structure, but actually has a central government. Think the States under the Articles of Confederacy, but without the infighting. And most of the decisions are brought before the people using the aforementioned Voter Cards.
They're the group that split from the Federation in the ending years of the War, taking approx 1/3 of Federation systems. Now their capital is Luna, on whose democratic system the entire Alliance was based.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 13:47:29 GMT -5
So they're a sort of Unitary Confederacy?
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 13:48:55 GMT -5
Uh, yes.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 13:58:23 GMT -5
Ok. Well, what exactly would drive the conflict in this story?
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 14:08:30 GMT -5
The question I was dreading answering!
Currently, I have this overarching mystery throughout the EVM universe concerning these things called "Sirens". They were first encountered on the Federation colony planet Deucalion, coincidentally, the first experiment in extrasolar colonies. They then were recorded on a handful of other planets. In each case, those encountering the Sirens vanished without a trace and were never seen again. The entire population on Duecalion (not a lot, but enough to begin a town) all disappeared along with the Federation soldiers that went along with them, leaving only a ghost town, and the wreckage of the colony ship.
In the other cases, it was much the same. Each of the planets with recorded Sirens are uninhabited and classified as Forbidden except by certified scientific expeditions. Recently, a series of strange ruins were uncovered on two Siren Worlds, both similar, and both obviously made by a sapient race.
the K'orm and the Warriors (possibly their permanent name) all know of the Sirens.
So the plot would begin with the K'orm (probably) invading a human (likely backwater) world (faction To Be Determined, likely a Union World) without any warning. The story would then be resisting the K'orm, and discovering what they invaded for (here's a hint: Siren Ruins)
Later it would become war possibly.
And then the discovery of what the Sirens are maybe.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 14:13:15 GMT -5
Cool. What else needs to be cracked down on then?
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Post by Mizagium on Mar 20, 2011 14:18:16 GMT -5
Uh, Adam's going to get the K'orm shit up eventually (SOON DAMMIT) and then I'll work on the Warrior Race people, but other than that, nothing.
I think.
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Post by TEAM_DERRICK on Mar 20, 2011 14:18:46 GMT -5
cool
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